Posted July 28, 2014
Tistter
Darkness
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adambiser
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Posted July 28, 2014
Welcome.
pokemaztre
Apprentice Witch
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Posted July 31, 2014
adambiser
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Posted August 01, 2014
Welcome.
enigmaxg2
Flick the Ear
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Posted August 02, 2014
I want to enter group:
my username is enigmaxg2 on Steam and Steamgifts
my username is enigmaxg2 on Steam and Steamgifts
madth3
Zenge-ing
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teshra
later
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madth3
Zenge-ing
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Posted August 06, 2014
teshra: So as not to clutter the actual Steamgfits thread, a post was made to post all group issues in this thread instead....
I've been on this forums for little time and I don't feel I know anyone enought to judge or defend them. I was reading your post with attention since you started enumerating facts. (No references but since the forums search are horrible I suppose those are tedious to collect and could be provided) Yet, you lost me when you included attacks to moral character that have nothing to do with the community or the activity in the forums. For me, your arguments would have had more weight if you had left those points out.
liquidsnakehpks
sons of liberty
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Posted August 06, 2014
very disturbing information , i am certainly very unhappy with lugum there has always been complaints about him every now and then. I am going to watch this thread for a while for more info before deciding if there is a member in the group whos causing disturbance to the smooth functioning of the group and is not liked by most members. There is no room for that here.
Teshra feel free to post any proof you might have later.
There will be no bending of rules for any members , i have told this clearly to lugum , i suggest all membesr to keep up with the rules of the group updated here in the group page.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GOGGIFT
One thing i would like to make clear , i hope everyone knows why lugum was banned for a year from this forum. It was not a misunderstanding he clearly understands the reason.
Teshra feel free to post any proof you might have later.
There will be no bending of rules for any members , i have told this clearly to lugum , i suggest all membesr to keep up with the rules of the group updated here in the group page.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GOGGIFT
One thing i would like to make clear , i hope everyone knows why lugum was banned for a year from this forum. It was not a misunderstanding he clearly understands the reason.
Post edited August 06, 2014 by liquidsnakehpks
teshra
later
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Posted August 06, 2014
madth3: I've been on this forums for little time and I don't feel I know anyone enought to judge or defend them. I was reading your post with attention since you started enumerating facts. (No references but since the forums search are horrible I suppose those are tedious to collect and could be provided)
Yet, you lost me when you included attacks to moral character that have nothing to do with the community or the activity in the forums. For me, your arguments would have had more weight if you had left those points out.
I did consider leaving those out. Of course I knew your exact reasoning would be used as a reason to try to invalidate my arguments against who he is but I trust the majority of the folks who read this to look past that because... Yet, you lost me when you included attacks to moral character that have nothing to do with the community or the activity in the forums. For me, your arguments would have had more weight if you had left those points out.
1. They would realize its not so much as an attack of character as it is painting the whole picture of who he is.
2. The comment has to do with the community and the activity in the forums because he himself made a whole thread about it earlier. I completely agree it has nothing to do with gaming and leeching but it was already made a part of the forums and so I included it. Otherwise, I would have no knowledge of it.
3. You said you don't feel you know anyone enough to judge or defend them. So wouldn't you and those like you prefer as much information as possible? I'm just stating what I know about him via the GOG forums, via Steam and via Steamgifts, again to paint the whole picture.
Not everyone knows the lengths he goes to for free games nor do I expect them to. There is forum turnover, people not really keeping up or not being here to pay attention to all his shenanigans, of course there will be people who don't care which is fine, new members being naïve in their interactions with him, people having selective memory, etc.
So I took the route of more information is better than less. If people want to give him a pass because of the "personal" comment, or because its TLDR, or because they side with him for whatever reason...well, that's what he's counting on. Another free pass to keep on going as always.
Everything I said is in the forums and comes from the forums. Going back 3 years. He's had people criticizing him very frequently, the evidence is all here. But he keeps coming up with excuses whenever his behavior is brought up. Most people end up deciding he's not worth it and move on.
And honestly, I had done that too until this latest issue with Steamgifts. To me at this point, enough is enough with this guy.
foxworks
5* General of Cheese™
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Posted August 06, 2014
teshra: He collects the same games on GOG and Steam as long as he doesn't have it in one of those places. I've already caught him doing it 4 times at least. Once was this past weekend in the Bazookery giveaway. This obvious display of pure greed is definitely not the kind of person who should be in the group.
Just to expand on this point. It was discovered Lugum already had Eschalon II on Steam when entering/winning the same title on GOG. I think there's enough history to show a pattern of behavior that goes against the very fiber of the BBBBoB giveaway. I never make such public posts, but thought an exception had to be made in this case.Spinorial
Ninja who say Ni
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Posted August 06, 2014
foxworks: Just to expand on this point. It was discovered Lugum already had Eschalon II on Steam when entering/winning the same title on GOG.
What?! Did he redeem the GOG? I felt bad for Cyberevil (the donor) before, but this... For the record, I too have seen him take games on Steam that I was absolutely sure he had on GOG/Desura already. Can't give you precise references, but I did make a mental note of it.
Also,
teshra: You did something unscrupulous in the take one/give one thread. Its not your fault. You just didn't know the rules.
I believe teshra is referring to this incident: https://secure.gog.com/forum/general/takeonegiveone_giveaway_thread/post2006 He hasn't apologised, to the best of my knowledge.
Post edited August 06, 2014 by Spinorial
Momo1991
FIX OUR FORUM!
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Posted August 06, 2014
high rated
I am extremely reluctantly posting my experience with lugum here.
1) Lugum was banned from the GOG forum for a year - during that year I befriended him and occasionally posted entries in GA's on his behalf because while he had access to PM's, he could not post on the forum. At one point, I asked why he'd been banned but he never really told me. (he's since publicly stated that he told anyone who asked - yeah...) Eventually I discovered the reason - he'd been found to have been uploading his GOG games to a torrent site. So there it is people - let's not dance around the bush here. Piracy - pure and simple.
2) Lugum didn't use Steam until a few months ago - I think someone explained how much money he could make with trading cards and suddenly Steam seemed like a very attractive idea. I'm supposing all of this but what caused me to stop speaking to him was when I posted a GA that asked people how well they knew me and lugum immediately went to my Facebook page in order to find the answer and win my GA. He then posted exactly how he had found the answer so quickly... Now I'm a pretty trusting soul but heck, this IS the internet, so advertising that you are one of the select few goglodytes to be on my FB friends list is the fastest way to no longer be on that list...and you're gonna make me pretty angry to boot. I refused to gift him and he apologized, accepted that he wasn't winning anything from me in that GA and I thought we'd moved on...until he joined Steam and began hounding me to give him his "gift" from that GA... Sorry but I wasn't going to bend to those tactics. Eventually after pages of "I've got the most miserable life ever", I got angry and told lugum he'd probably gotten more games from me than any other member here and that the answer was no. At that, lugum blocked me.
3) A well known forum member hosted a GA for games worth well over $100 in total value. Lugum participated but did not win anything. He had a complete meltdown with one winner and then he had another meltdown with the host of the GA. I don't know about anyone else but I was appalled - the rules were VERY clear but apparently lugum didn't feel that rules applied to him and he made two nice forum members feel absolutely horrible at a moment when they should have been enjoying themselves.
4) Lugum was an early adopter of the Take One/Give One thread. If you care to check, you'll probably see him chastising other people who've broken the rules, yet months after the establishment of this thread, lugum conveniently decided to "not know the rules" when they weren't convenient for him. He was called out by another member, posted pages of text where in he used the usual "my life is so miserable" argument and then gives a crappy game and decides that makes everything ok...
But see here's the deal - most people here don't spend every waking hour reading every thread, so most of lugum's bad behavior flies beneath the radar... To most of you, lugum is a pretty nice guy - and I'm not saying he isn't - but he does take advantage of every thing he can, He does show up to every single GA - usually in the first few posts. He does grab hugely expensive games with an alarming frequency during big sales. He comes off as a nice guy that is misunderstood...but see some of us have endeavored way, way too many hours trying to help lugum only to discover that lugum has zero motivation to change. He's got a good gig here at GOG. Why change when everything you do only wins you more free stuff... (not sure when he actually plays games except those on "coin-mining" sites that earn you more free games)... but be that as it may, lugum is far from lily-white.
So maybe we need to practice so tough-love so lugum has some real motivation to take responsibility for his behavior and actually change...cause so far this forum is only enabling him to continue behaving in a manner most of us think is pretty crappy.
1) Lugum was banned from the GOG forum for a year - during that year I befriended him and occasionally posted entries in GA's on his behalf because while he had access to PM's, he could not post on the forum. At one point, I asked why he'd been banned but he never really told me. (he's since publicly stated that he told anyone who asked - yeah...) Eventually I discovered the reason - he'd been found to have been uploading his GOG games to a torrent site. So there it is people - let's not dance around the bush here. Piracy - pure and simple.
2) Lugum didn't use Steam until a few months ago - I think someone explained how much money he could make with trading cards and suddenly Steam seemed like a very attractive idea. I'm supposing all of this but what caused me to stop speaking to him was when I posted a GA that asked people how well they knew me and lugum immediately went to my Facebook page in order to find the answer and win my GA. He then posted exactly how he had found the answer so quickly... Now I'm a pretty trusting soul but heck, this IS the internet, so advertising that you are one of the select few goglodytes to be on my FB friends list is the fastest way to no longer be on that list...and you're gonna make me pretty angry to boot. I refused to gift him and he apologized, accepted that he wasn't winning anything from me in that GA and I thought we'd moved on...until he joined Steam and began hounding me to give him his "gift" from that GA... Sorry but I wasn't going to bend to those tactics. Eventually after pages of "I've got the most miserable life ever", I got angry and told lugum he'd probably gotten more games from me than any other member here and that the answer was no. At that, lugum blocked me.
3) A well known forum member hosted a GA for games worth well over $100 in total value. Lugum participated but did not win anything. He had a complete meltdown with one winner and then he had another meltdown with the host of the GA. I don't know about anyone else but I was appalled - the rules were VERY clear but apparently lugum didn't feel that rules applied to him and he made two nice forum members feel absolutely horrible at a moment when they should have been enjoying themselves.
4) Lugum was an early adopter of the Take One/Give One thread. If you care to check, you'll probably see him chastising other people who've broken the rules, yet months after the establishment of this thread, lugum conveniently decided to "not know the rules" when they weren't convenient for him. He was called out by another member, posted pages of text where in he used the usual "my life is so miserable" argument and then gives a crappy game and decides that makes everything ok...
But see here's the deal - most people here don't spend every waking hour reading every thread, so most of lugum's bad behavior flies beneath the radar... To most of you, lugum is a pretty nice guy - and I'm not saying he isn't - but he does take advantage of every thing he can, He does show up to every single GA - usually in the first few posts. He does grab hugely expensive games with an alarming frequency during big sales. He comes off as a nice guy that is misunderstood...but see some of us have endeavored way, way too many hours trying to help lugum only to discover that lugum has zero motivation to change. He's got a good gig here at GOG. Why change when everything you do only wins you more free stuff... (not sure when he actually plays games except those on "coin-mining" sites that earn you more free games)... but be that as it may, lugum is far from lily-white.
So maybe we need to practice so tough-love so lugum has some real motivation to take responsibility for his behavior and actually change...cause so far this forum is only enabling him to continue behaving in a manner most of us think is pretty crappy.
liquidsnakehpks
sons of liberty
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Posted August 06, 2014
I think i have heard enough ,I am shocked its clear that the group will not be at peace with lugum around.
Lugum i know you are going to read this later and dispute all these posts all over and attack these people as well but , You have been removed from the group permanently. This will not change.
I did not know that you were telling people that you were banned from here for a year due to misunderstanding? :O really ? Remember who was in that thread when that incident happened ? Remember the pm's asking not press matter further?
Anyways as noble group members we must not hinder him further he has a few personal issues as well. Lugum i hope you find another group , medium to host your giveaways from now. The fighting will never end without this removal happening no hard feelings. I know the rules are also hard for you to follow.
Just so it is clear your ban is not negotiable here nor anyone can influence it to change . For the well being of this group. You were banned forever for breaking rules no 9 and 11 in the group rules.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GOGGIFT
I think with this the group can again move forward peacefully and i want to thank the gifters and other members of the group for alerting us to various issues in the group.
If anyone has a issue in the group going further from now feel free to pm or post it here and not the other giveaways thread.
Lugum i know you are going to read this later and dispute all these posts all over and attack these people as well but , You have been removed from the group permanently. This will not change.
I did not know that you were telling people that you were banned from here for a year due to misunderstanding? :O really ? Remember who was in that thread when that incident happened ? Remember the pm's asking not press matter further?
Anyways as noble group members we must not hinder him further he has a few personal issues as well. Lugum i hope you find another group , medium to host your giveaways from now. The fighting will never end without this removal happening no hard feelings. I know the rules are also hard for you to follow.
Just so it is clear your ban is not negotiable here nor anyone can influence it to change . For the well being of this group. You were banned forever for breaking rules no 9 and 11 in the group rules.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GOGGIFT
I think with this the group can again move forward peacefully and i want to thank the gifters and other members of the group for alerting us to various issues in the group.
If anyone has a issue in the group going further from now feel free to pm or post it here and not the other giveaways thread.
Post edited August 07, 2014 by liquidsnakehpks